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	<description>from statist to anarchist in one easy step</description>
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		<title>By: One of Canada&#8217;s dark deep secrets&#8230; &#171; Check Your Premises</title>
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		<dc:creator>One of Canada&#8217;s dark deep secrets&#8230; &#171; Check Your Premises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June, 2008   theConverted tells us about 28 mass graves of children found all across Canada&#8230; and the media is keeping mum about it! The group alleges more than 28 mass grave locations [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Idealization</title>
		<link>http://theconverted.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/anarchist-style-justice/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>Idealization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit.

cheers, Idealization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyway &#8230; nice blog to visit.</p>
<p>cheers, Idealization.</p>
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		<title>By: theconverted</title>
		<link>http://theconverted.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/anarchist-style-justice/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>theconverted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair Ryan, Kevin Annett isn&#039;t saying that 50000 were murdered in the sense they were marched into gas chambers or shot into ditches - there are a few allegations of murders of this sort as well as already documented sexual abuse of native children - but that many of these children were neglected, denied medical care or intentionally exposed to TB and smallpox to the same end. Call it willful neglect rather than murder, they are just as dead. And those deaths are the result of the idea that Indian culture must be destroyed and &#039;Christian&#039; culture foisted upon them &#039;for their own good&#039;.

Annett also presents some compelling evidence for these kinds of crimes from a white doctor from Indian affairs back in the 20s. Annett is not saying anything that is not corroborated by photos, figures and the testimony of elders.

At the very least, we have a situation where the churches - supposedly caring for the &#039;souls&#039; of these kids - dumped and hid their bodies for years, like so much garbage.

I know it is hard to believe from our side of the fence, but friends tell me these allegations are very old and well known in among the natives, long before Kevin Annett came around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair Ryan, Kevin Annett isn&#8217;t saying that 50000 were murdered in the sense they were marched into gas chambers or shot into ditches &#8211; there are a few allegations of murders of this sort as well as already documented sexual abuse of native children &#8211; but that many of these children were neglected, denied medical care or intentionally exposed to TB and smallpox to the same end. Call it willful neglect rather than murder, they are just as dead. And those deaths are the result of the idea that Indian culture must be destroyed and &#8216;Christian&#8217; culture foisted upon them &#8216;for their own good&#8217;.</p>
<p>Annett also presents some compelling evidence for these kinds of crimes from a white doctor from Indian affairs back in the 20s. Annett is not saying anything that is not corroborated by photos, figures and the testimony of elders.</p>
<p>At the very least, we have a situation where the churches &#8211; supposedly caring for the &#8217;souls&#8217; of these kids &#8211; dumped and hid their bodies for years, like so much garbage.</p>
<p>I know it is hard to believe from our side of the fence, but friends tell me these allegations are very old and well known in among the natives, long before Kevin Annett came around.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://theconverted.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/anarchist-style-justice/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably should have posted this link to a story about it on thetyee.ca (not exactly an establishment news site). Judge for yourself.

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/04/30/TruthAndAbuse/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably should have posted this link to a story about it on thetyee.ca (not exactly an establishment news site). Judge for yourself.</p>
<p><a href="http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/04/30/TruthAndAbuse/" rel="nofollow">http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/04/30/TruthAndAbuse/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://theconverted.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/anarchist-style-justice/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for investigation into any and all accusations regarding residential schools.

You give some human beings virtually absolute power over others and say &quot;assimilate &#039;em&quot; and said abuses will inevitably happen.

If I were you, I&#039;d be pretty skeptical about Kevin Annett, though. A little research into him and you&#039;ll find that he&#039;s not exactly a trustworthy character. Numbers quoted for starters, are pretty suspect--50 000 children killed, when in reality the estimate of total numbers of students is roughly 100 000. I think it would be pretty hard to hide the murder of half of all children sent to the schools. Additionally, the Squamish First Nation has distanced itself from Annett.

He&#039;s accused the Rev. Bill Phipps of being involved with a plot to cover up the supposed genocide. I know Bill, and everyone I know who knows Bill thinks this is pretty laughable. In fact, if there were a conspiracy, Bill would probably be there on the front line to expose it.

I&#039;ll admit, I&#039;m a member of the United Church. I am ashamed of the previous actions of some members of my church, as well as certain sections of the hierarchy. Most members of the church as well acknowledge the complicity of the church in those actions. However, the church itself, being a shell of what it once was (a power church) has little reason to hide this stuff anymore. It&#039;s apologized for its role in residential schools--and Bill was the one who pushed it. In fact, the United Church is held in high regard

Instead of pursuing the United Church in this way, it might be more useful and meaningful to ask the government of Canada to admit its role, and apologize--which it hasn&#039;t. After all, they were church-run state schools, and the state was at the helm in the end. I would urge you to read the following statement by the United Church, and research for yourself whether or not Mr. Annett&#039;s allegations etc. are true or not.

http://www.united-church.ca/communications/news/general/070501</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for investigation into any and all accusations regarding residential schools.</p>
<p>You give some human beings virtually absolute power over others and say &#8220;assimilate &#8216;em&#8221; and said abuses will inevitably happen.</p>
<p>If I were you, I&#8217;d be pretty skeptical about Kevin Annett, though. A little research into him and you&#8217;ll find that he&#8217;s not exactly a trustworthy character. Numbers quoted for starters, are pretty suspect&#8211;50 000 children killed, when in reality the estimate of total numbers of students is roughly 100 000. I think it would be pretty hard to hide the murder of half of all children sent to the schools. Additionally, the Squamish First Nation has distanced itself from Annett.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s accused the Rev. Bill Phipps of being involved with a plot to cover up the supposed genocide. I know Bill, and everyone I know who knows Bill thinks this is pretty laughable. In fact, if there were a conspiracy, Bill would probably be there on the front line to expose it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit, I&#8217;m a member of the United Church. I am ashamed of the previous actions of some members of my church, as well as certain sections of the hierarchy. Most members of the church as well acknowledge the complicity of the church in those actions. However, the church itself, being a shell of what it once was (a power church) has little reason to hide this stuff anymore. It&#8217;s apologized for its role in residential schools&#8211;and Bill was the one who pushed it. In fact, the United Church is held in high regard</p>
<p>Instead of pursuing the United Church in this way, it might be more useful and meaningful to ask the government of Canada to admit its role, and apologize&#8211;which it hasn&#8217;t. After all, they were church-run state schools, and the state was at the helm in the end. I would urge you to read the following statement by the United Church, and research for yourself whether or not Mr. Annett&#8217;s allegations etc. are true or not.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.united-church.ca/communications/news/general/070501" rel="nofollow">http://www.united-church.ca/communications/news/general/070501</a></p>
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		<title>By: theconverted</title>
		<link>http://theconverted.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/anarchist-style-justice/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>theconverted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Ron. Kyle Bennett has it right and I think if people see the IHRTGC work well, they will question their long held assumptions about the need for the state.

Of course the point about using resources is quite true and I actually expect it to be a criticism of stateless justice - how can you properly investigate such crimes without the resources of the state? How will you get justice?

The answer is, of course, without a state, the resources and coercive power needed to commit such heinous crimes wouldn&#039;t exist in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Ron. Kyle Bennett has it right and I think if people see the IHRTGC work well, they will question their long held assumptions about the need for the state.</p>
<p>Of course the point about using resources is quite true and I actually expect it to be a criticism of stateless justice &#8211; how can you properly investigate such crimes without the resources of the state? How will you get justice?</p>
<p>The answer is, of course, without a state, the resources and coercive power needed to commit such heinous crimes wouldn&#8217;t exist in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The IHRTGC should be supported and looked at as a model of stateless justice that is not our normal “Security Agency” idea, but one of true cooperative, community based justice&lt;/em&gt;

Kyle Bennett over at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://humanadvancement.net/blog/index.php?itemid=201&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Human Advancement blog&lt;/a&gt; (h/t to Billy Beck at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P3722&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two-Four&lt;/a&gt;), wrote a timely post discussing non-State justice.

From the article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Individuals in a market anarchy have all the powers that a present government has with one exception: they cannot use any resources but their own. They cannot arbitrarily claim the resources, nor the authority, of others. Thus, they cannot isolate themselves from the consequences of acting - from responsibility.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The IHRTGC should be supported and looked at as a model of stateless justice that is not our normal “Security Agency” idea, but one of true cooperative, community based justice</em></p>
<p>Kyle Bennett over at the <a href="http://humanadvancement.net/blog/index.php?itemid=201" rel="nofollow">Human Advancement blog</a> (h/t to Billy Beck at <a href="http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P3722" rel="nofollow">Two-Four</a>), wrote a timely post discussing non-State justice.</p>
<p>From the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Individuals in a market anarchy have all the powers that a present government has with one exception: they cannot use any resources but their own. They cannot arbitrarily claim the resources, nor the authority, of others. Thus, they cannot isolate themselves from the consequences of acting &#8211; from responsibility.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: BradSpangler.com &#187; Genocide, Canadian style</title>
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		<dc:creator>BradSpangler.com &#187; Genocide, Canadian style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] theConverted: Anarchist Style Justice &#8220;In Canada, we have a dark, dirty little secret - our Government, in cahoots with the [...]</description>
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